Talk:InfraWiki

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Sources for the claims made on this page new section

Certain claims made here appear to be controversial (at least concerning the single ProleWiki administrator who militantly interferes with the content of this and other such articles). Thus, I believe a brief elaboration of certain sources used here for these controversial claims is required.

1. Jucheguevara (a former ProleWiki administrator who was banned for maintain Patriotic socialist views and other reasons) is the founder of InfraWiki:

One of the controversial claims is regarding the founder of this site. The ProleWiki administrator took issue with the claim that Jucheguevara (username of the banned "MAGA Communist" ProleWiki administrator) is the founder and current administrator of InfraWiki. While at first appearance, this claim may seem like mere hearsay which has been purposefully expanded to the point of seeming like fact, this claim is actually proven, and the in-line source for this directly shows such proof.

In the source (which is a video published on the InfraWiki YouTube channel), the sole administrator of InfraWiki who happened to be the person presenting the video, known in InfraWiki as "WikiSysop", says the following at around 4:52 in the video:

"[...] I'm actually from ProleWiki; I was the banned admin. And yeah, we're stealing a lot of my old work. [referring to his copy-and-pasting of ProleWiki pages which he, known on that site as Jucheguevara, edited]" (Link)

Beside this clear admission, there are many other instances in this video where similar aspects are revealed, such as later in the video, when "WikiSysop" goes into ProleWiki and is logged in as "Jucheguevara".

2. Banned Patriotic socialist/"MAGA Communist" users on ProleWiki have moved to InfraWiki:

This is likewise a proven fact. I would greatly dislike to call out usernames, but the circumstances of this require me to do so.

Here are merely a few banned Patriotic socialist ProleWiki users who now currently edit on InfraWiki:

And I can find other users like those metioned. The claim, that being that many editors on InfraWiki are banned Patriotic socialist users on ProleWiki, is correct. I do hope this removes any confusion which may have developed. Good day. Wisconcom (talk) 19:04, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

You seem to imply bad faith on my part (calling it "whitewashing" in the changelog) but I have only ever been editing towards the truth on leftypedia. I was not aware that Jucheguevara outed himself as WikiSysop so this stays in the article (in fact you made this topic after I edited the page and left in that jucheguevara was the founder). Likewise, it's okay to say that Jucheguevara was a prolewiki administrator because in this case it's likely that he created infrawiki as a response to being banned on prolewiki. I object however about the mention that infrawiki's "main editors" (there's not many edits and many spam accounts) should be mentioned as being ex-editors on Prolewiki, because I just don't see why this needs to be mentioned. AmericanBaath made several edits in July-August and then left after that. ComradeBanana barely made a few edits of at most 200 bytes each and over a two-month period. Essentially, you can't show that their ban from Prolewiki is what led them to join infrawiki and as such it's completely out of topic to include this line. What is the link between these two people's prolewiki accounts and infrawiki accounts? None that I can see. If you see one, then you should make it clear before adding this mention on the page. This page made a whopping 5 mentions to ProleWiki when you created it, for a page that was only around 4-5 paragraphs. Clearly the "washing" was not coming from me. --CriticalResist (talk) 12:22, 18 February 2023 (UTC)