Talk:2023 Israel–Gaza war

Death toll: Civilian versus soldier

All reports that I am able to find in mainstream articles do not distinguish between IDF deaths and Israeli civilian deaths. The Wikipedia infobox at Wikipedia:2023 Israel-Hamas war has an ambiguous phrasing that implies ten times as many civilian deaths as military deaths. If this is the case it needs to be clearly corroborated. If not it should be condemned and disproven here in clear terms. Until this can be sorted I have commented out the previous numbers in the infobox. Harrystein (talk) 01:52, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

other fronts

How do we talk about other fronts? I.e, The West bank, Lebanon boarder with Israel and the Houthi attacks from Yemen. Do we have another section for them or a section for each? do we do another page? Or any other ideas? Wikipedia currently has different pages for Houthi and Hezbollah involvement, maybe we are to small for this or maybe it does not matter? _0.0_ (talk) 06:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Infobox: Proposition to remove numbers from infobox in relation to the 7th Oct attack.

The problem with this infobox (aside from them being finicky things to edit!) is that these numbers keep on changing, the two that stand out to me are the number of killed, put here at 1300 aprox (civilians) only killed, despite the Israeli media before claiming 1400 (total) were killed, changing that today to 'about 1300' (total). And the other is the number of hostages, put as 130 here but claimed since the beginning as being around 230 by Hamas whilst the number from the IDF raising daily after the attack but stabilizing at the same number as hamas a couple weeks ago.

The point being that these were probably perfectly accurate numbers with regard to what was being reported a few days after the 7th but they have constantly changed since, with the total deaths only having changed these last days and this website does not have the kind of active user base such as wikipedia (in which these kind of 'real time' updates are already an issue), and all that is only for events that happened on the 7th and 8th, let alone the month since, which we see IDF soldiers and Palestinian civilians death tolls rise daily.

So, having said all that my opinion is that we are better to leave at least some of these fields blank, I feel it is certainly better to not give information than give information that is likely to change and so leave us will false information.
I would like to reach a concensus on this though so please do reply, Thanks. :) --_0.0_ (talk) 06:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)