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@[[User:Capuch1n|Capuch1n]] Most of your edits here are good. I just wanted to make a few things more clear:


1. The Hesiod citation refers to ''lines'' 109-129, not pages, since it is an ancient work. I will add "lines" to remove confusion.
2. Marx surely ridiculed the myth of the "Dark Ages" as told by the historians of his day, as should we. But I do think there is room among Marxists for discussing the finer questions of the transition from slave society to feudalism and whether it constituted a change in the preservation of knowledge. The narrowest definition of the term just refers to the bottleneck of ancient texts and contemporary records during the 5th-8th centuries, and I believe it was the very existence of this hiccup which required the Whigs to create a cartoonish narrative to explain it away. At any rate, modern Marxists need somewhere to collate and discuss our different responses to modern bourgeois historiography, and I feel that Leftypedia could serve as just such a platform. I therefore recommend making the language more neutral and linking to a page such as [[Middle Ages]] or [[Feudalism]] for those who want to read more.
For example: "[...] ''forced to blame idealist sources like [[Christianity|Christian thought]] for the perceived ignorance of the '[[Dark Ages]]''' "
3. I'm not going to mess with the last paragraph, since it seems you tried to add some kind of tag indicating that it was WIP. I'm not well-versed in Wiki syntax, so I don't know what you were trying to do.
[[User:Harrystein|Harrystein]] ([[User talk:Harrystein|talk]]) 23:34, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

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@Capuch1n Most of your edits here are good. I just wanted to make a few things more clear:

1. The Hesiod citation refers to lines 109-129, not pages, since it is an ancient work. I will add "lines" to remove confusion.

2. Marx surely ridiculed the myth of the "Dark Ages" as told by the historians of his day, as should we. But I do think there is room among Marxists for discussing the finer questions of the transition from slave society to feudalism and whether it constituted a change in the preservation of knowledge. The narrowest definition of the term just refers to the bottleneck of ancient texts and contemporary records during the 5th-8th centuries, and I believe it was the very existence of this hiccup which required the Whigs to create a cartoonish narrative to explain it away. At any rate, modern Marxists need somewhere to collate and discuss our different responses to modern bourgeois historiography, and I feel that Leftypedia could serve as just such a platform. I therefore recommend making the language more neutral and linking to a page such as Middle Ages or Feudalism for those who want to read more.

For example: "[...] forced to blame idealist sources like Christian thought for the perceived ignorance of the 'Dark Ages' "

3. I'm not going to mess with the last paragraph, since it seems you tried to add some kind of tag indicating that it was WIP. I'm not well-versed in Wiki syntax, so I don't know what you were trying to do.

Harrystein (talk) 23:34, 20 December 2022 (UTC)