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The PCP doesn't call itself the "Shining Path". This was a name given to them by the anti-communist Peruvian government and used as a pejorative against the PCP. Unless we are looking to have an article of no better quality than Wikipedia, and start calling the Communist Party of China "CCP," we should be referring to the party by the name it actually uses. --[[User:SpaceHaitian|SpaceHaitian]] ([[User talk:SpaceHaitian|talk]]) 03:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
The PCP doesn't call itself the "Shining Path". This was a name given to them by the anti-communist Peruvian government and used as a pejorative against the PCP. Unless we are looking to have an article of no better quality than Wikipedia, and start calling the Communist Party of China "CCP," we should be referring to the party by the name it actually uses. --[[User:SpaceHaitian|SpaceHaitian]] ([[User talk:SpaceHaitian|talk]]) 03:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
:Hi SpaceHaitian, I am in favor of discussing a potential move. From a cursory search online it seems that the party indeed does not use the term officially, but I cannot find any sources which claim either that it was a pejorative term or that it was developed by the government of Peru. Can you provide a source that we could use in the article? My Spanish is poor but sources in that language would work just as well (if not better?). In any case I will most likely support a move. Thanks - [[User:Harrystein|Harrystein]] ([[User talk:Harrystein|talk]]) 17:12, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
:Hi SpaceHaitian, I am in favor of discussing a potential move. From a cursory search online it seems that the party indeed does not use the term officially, but I cannot find any sources which claim either that it was a pejorative term or that it was developed by the government of Peru. Can you provide a source that we could use in the article? My Spanish is poor but sources in that language would work just as well (if not better?). In any case I will most likely support a move. Thanks - [[User:Harrystein|Harrystein]] ([[User talk:Harrystein|talk]]) 17:12, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
:Multiple formations in Peru entitle themselves the "Communist Party of Peru" (or a similar form to that). For that reason, "[[Communist Party of Peru]]" currently redirects to a disambiguation page linking to the various organizations of this name which exist. The assertion that the only correct name for the Shining Path is the ''Communist Party of Peru'' is, from my investigation, largely a Maoist belief which is generated by their view that the other Communist Party of Peru was an illegitimate vanguard of the working class which had fallen to revisionism. Various people, largely Maoists, claim that "Shining Path" is an anti-communist term invented to make the organization in question seem cultic and fanatical, although as Harrystein had mentioned, that cannot be substantiated. I may be supportive of a rename to '''Communist Party of Peru (Shining Path)''' as that would disambiguate to an adequate extent. [[User:SociusVenger|SociusVenger]] ([[User talk:SociusVenger|talk]]) 20:53, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

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Article should be renamed to "Communist Party of Peru"

The PCP doesn't call itself the "Shining Path". This was a name given to them by the anti-communist Peruvian government and used as a pejorative against the PCP. Unless we are looking to have an article of no better quality than Wikipedia, and start calling the Communist Party of China "CCP," we should be referring to the party by the name it actually uses. --SpaceHaitian (talk) 03:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi SpaceHaitian, I am in favor of discussing a potential move. From a cursory search online it seems that the party indeed does not use the term officially, but I cannot find any sources which claim either that it was a pejorative term or that it was developed by the government of Peru. Can you provide a source that we could use in the article? My Spanish is poor but sources in that language would work just as well (if not better?). In any case I will most likely support a move. Thanks - Harrystein (talk) 17:12, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Multiple formations in Peru entitle themselves the "Communist Party of Peru" (or a similar form to that). For that reason, "Communist Party of Peru" currently redirects to a disambiguation page linking to the various organizations of this name which exist. The assertion that the only correct name for the Shining Path is the Communist Party of Peru is, from my investigation, largely a Maoist belief which is generated by their view that the other Communist Party of Peru was an illegitimate vanguard of the working class which had fallen to revisionism. Various people, largely Maoists, claim that "Shining Path" is an anti-communist term invented to make the organization in question seem cultic and fanatical, although as Harrystein had mentioned, that cannot be substantiated. I may be supportive of a rename to Communist Party of Peru (Shining Path) as that would disambiguate to an adequate extent. SociusVenger (talk) 20:53, 21 September 2023 (UTC)